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in no uncertain terms to the German court that is trying Beate Klarsfeld, and to the entire judicial establishment in Germany that they are answerable to the court of world public opinion where they are on trial."

When Lischka is called to the witness stand, the French witnesses seated on benches in the corridor, taking their cue from Julien Aubart, refuse to stand up to make room for the colossal Gestapo chief to pass. The police fear the witnesses may attack him. After arguing for an hour, the police take Lischka into the courtroom by an unused side entrance. It has been agreed that I will give a discreet signal to start a riot, but only after Marinsky has interrogated Lischka. The cross-examination begins:
MARINSKY: "Have you any sentiments about the number 195590?"
LISCHKA: "I don't know what this number means."
MARINSKY: "Surely you remember your personal number in the S.S.?"
LISCHKA: "I don't remember it at all any more."
MARINSKY: "Perhaps you remember your Nazi Party number?"
MARINSKY: "Why don't you want to talk about the years from 1936 to 1945? Are you ashamed?"
LISCHKA: (Referring to his right to refuse testimony that might incriminate him) "I refuse to answer this question." The lawyer, seeking to show that Lischka lived a respected existence in Germany since the war's end, then tried a different approach:
MARINSKY: "How long have you lived in Cologne?"
LISCHKA: "Since 1950."
MARINSKY: "For twenty-one consecutive years, is that correct? Is that correct?"
MARINSKY: "Nobody attacked you in these years, until these people [referring to Beate Klarsfeld and her group]?"
MARINSKY: "Not a finger was pointed at you and nobody called you a killer?"

The judge protests: Counsel, you are trying to say that the inhabitants of Cologne have voluntarily integrated Lischka. I cannot permit such question.
MARINSKY: "It is you who said that, Your Honor." To Lischka: "Your hands are trembling now; they did not tremble thirty years ago."
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